Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) reflects on his history of being the sole “no” vote in many cases and how he has gained the trust of his constituents because of it. In an interview with Reason’s Zach Weissmueller and Liz Wolfe, Massie discusses his controversial votes against aid to Ukraine and Israel and addresses accusations of anti-Semitism related to a meme he posted. Massie denies the accusations and states his intentions to avoid “open-ended support” for Israel’s war and to push back against limitations on free speech. He also recalls his attempt to force an in-person Congressional vote on a $2.2 trillion COVID-19 relief bill in March 2020, triggering criticism from former President Donald Trump. In the same year, Massie defeated primary challenger Todd McMurtry. The conversation also delves into the FISA Reform and Reauthorization Act, particularly Section 702, which allows the government to surveil communications between American citizens and foreign targets without a warrant. Massie explains the potential impact on Americans and shares his views on how this issue has evolved in Congress. He expresses optimism due to a growing coalition of conservatives and liberals concerned about government surveillance, leading to a bipartisan effort to reform the program.